標題: Curlin 馬主唔會考慮跑凱旋門, Big Brown 下場可能會跑草地 [打印本頁]
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asiadragon 時間: 5/8/2008 10:24 AM 標題: Curlin 馬主唔會考慮跑凱旋門, Big Brown 下場可能會跑草地
Not too long after Big Brown returned to the winner's circle in Sunday's $1 million Haskell Invitational at Monmouth Park, his trainer, Richard Dutrow Jr., also returned to form.
Following the Haskell press conference, the topic of Curlin, the defending Horse of the Year, and the Breeders' Cup Classic came up. Dutrow, known for his candidness and cockiness during the Triple Crown run, gave his assessment of Curlin.
"Curlin couldn't win the Derby, we could," Dutrow said. "Curlin couldn't win [the Haskell], we could. Curlin got beat [by] a filly. We haven't. Our horse is undefeated on the grass. Curlin isn't. I don't know why people think Curlin is such a good horse. We're way better than Curlin."
The only way to find out if Dutrow is right is to have the two horses run against each other. The only chance for that to happen is if both show up in the Breeders' Cup Classic at Santa Anita on Oct. 25. While that is the stated year-end target for Big Brown, it is not certain that Curlin is being pointed that way. Jess Jackson, the majority owner of Curlin, said Monday that the Classic "is still in the options," but preferred to take one race at a time.
On Tuesday, Jackson was to announce where Curlin will make his next start. The Woodward here Aug. 30 or the Pacific Classic at Del Mar on Aug. 24 are the most likely choices. Jackson appears to be leaning toward the Woodward, run on dirt at 1 1/8 miles.
"I'm a Californian and I'd love to be on the West Coast, but at the same time the best competition and the best dirt's out here," Jackson said at Saratoga after watching Curlin work five furlongs in 1:02.72 over the training track.
Jackson did say that shipping overseas for the Arc de Triomphe in October is no longer a consideration for Curlin.
Jackson said he would love for Curlin and Big Brown to meet, but "on our terms," he said.
"We don't have anything to prove, he does," Jackson said. "We like him, he's a great horse; it would be good for racing to have them together. We're not avoiding him, we're just doing what's right for Curlin."
While plans for Curlin's next race were to be finalized Tuesday, plans for Big Brown's next race will be made at a later date. The only thing for certain is that Big Brown will not run in the $1 million Travers here Aug. 23 because it's too close to the hard race he had in the Haskell.
On Monday, Michael Iavarone, the head of the International Equine Acquisitions Holdings Stable which owns Big Brown, said he would like to run Big Brown in a grass race some time in mid-September. Big Brown won his career debut on turf by 11 lengths last year at Saratoga.
At present, there is no race on a major circuit that fits the bill.
"I know racetracks are going to make offers for us to come there," Iavarone said. "We're pretty adamant on getting that race in or around the 13th. We're hoping somebody will create a grass race for us, and I bet you somebody does. There'll be offers to get this horse. You saw yesterday the electricity in that place was awesome yesterday."
A crowd of 45,132 at Monmouth Park watched Big Brown run down Coal Play in the final 70 yards to win the Haskell by 1 3/4 lengths. The Haskell was Big Brown's first start since being pulled up in the Belmont Stakes on June 7 when he was going for the Triple Crown. Big Brown had to do all the dirty work in the Haskell, chasing Coal Play before passing him in deep stretch. Big Brown ran 1 1/8 miles in 1:48.31 and earned a 107 Beyer Speed Figure, second only to the 109 Beyer he earned in the Kentucky Derby.
Though Big Brown did drift out significantly in the stretch, Dutrow said Monday, "I didn't see anything that was negative yesterday."
Speaking from Monmouth Monday morning, Dutrow said Big Brown came out of the Haskell in good order. Big Brown vanned from Monmouth Park back to Aqueduct, arriving shortly after noon.
"Everything I see is good," Dutrow said.
With Big Brown passing the Travers, the field for that $1 million race could come up relatively deep. Harlem Rocker, who is 4 for 4 on dirt, and Macho Again and Pyro, the first two finishers from the Jim Dandy, head the field. Also pointing to the race are Belmont Stakes winner Da' Tara, Swaps winner Tres Borrachos, Santa Anita Derby winner Colonel John, Mambo in Seattle, You and I Forever, Tale of Ekati, Acai, and Court Vision.
[ 本帖最後由 asiadragon 於 5/8/2008 10:27 AM 編輯 ]
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hkcmlawrence 時間: 5/8/2008 10:25 AM
美國人真係瘋狂
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Running 時間: 5/8/2008 10:27 AM
做乜玩交叉走位啊？:fff:
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sw 時間: 5/8/2008 10:32 AM
而家有唔少人唔鍾意big brown
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asiadragon 時間: 5/8/2008 10:35 AM
Curlin 可能跑太平洋經典賽 or 活華錦標 ..
活華錦標(泥1800米) 機會較大...
馬主都想同 Big Brown 在 BC Classic 對決
Arc 不會係目標
至於 Big Brown 在星期日果場赫斯高邀請賽用力太多.
故不會跑3個星期後的卓華斯錦標(三歲,泥2000米)
反而會跑草地...
Big Brown 在 Maiden 賽事 Win 接近12個馬位..
但這場水準成疑:yyy:
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asiadragon 時間: 5/8/2008 10:38 AM
- While the mystery of where and when Curlin will start next was scheduled to be cleared up by majority owner Jess Jackson on a national conference call Tuesday afternoon, there is little mystery about how the reigning Horse of the Year is training.
In what has become a weekly ritual every Monday since his arrival here last month, Curlin came out on the Oklahoma training track shortly before 6 a.m. to work under exercise rider Carmen Rosas. With a large throng of railbirds looking on and fog shrouding much of the run down the backstretch, Curlin broke off at the five-furlong pole and settled into a nice, easy stride. After going his opening quarter mile in 25.76 seconds and three-eighths in 38.06, he picked up the pace on cue upon entering the stretch and completed the five-furlong work in 1:02.69. He went his final quarter mile in 24.63 without any urging from Rosas before galloping out six furlongs in 1:16.29 and seven-eighths in 1:30.54.
"He's in a beautiful rhythm right now," said trainer Steve Asmussen. "He's in beautiful shape and ready for wherever Jess wants to run him."
Jackson was on hand to watch Curlin work for the second straight week, and like Asmussen said he would continue to ponder his options.
Options for Curlin include Saratoga's Sword Dancer Invitational on the grass on Aug. 16, the Woodward over the main track here two weeks later, or Del Mar's Pacific Classic on Aug. 24. As expected, Curlin has been tendered an invitation to the Sword Dancer.
"Watching a horse like Curlin is a great feeling," said Asmussen. "I understand why people come out so early to see him train. If you like horses, you've got to like him."
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李澤楷 時間: 5/8/2008 11:17 AM
原帖由 asiadragon 於 5/8/2008 10:35 AM 發表
Curlin 可能跑太平洋經典賽 or 活華錦標 ..
活華錦標(泥1800米) 機會較大...
馬主都想同 Big Brown 在 BC Classic 對決
Arc 不會係目標
至於 Big Brown 在星期日果場赫斯高邀請賽用力太多.
故不 ...
連紅石駒都贏唔到.無畏係法國..:jjjj: .
不過big brown未必草地唔得.反而無左全勝包袱可能仲好.
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Running 時間: 5/8/2008 11:19 AM
原帖由 李澤楷 於 5/8/2008 11:17 AM 發表
連紅石駒都贏唔到.無畏係法國..:jjjj: .
不過big brown未必草地唔得.反而無左全勝包袱可能仲好.
或者一個唔該發現佢草地能力可能仲得:fff:
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asiadragon 時間: 5/8/2008 11:58 AM
原帖由 李澤楷 於 5/8/2008 11:17 AM 發表
連紅石駒都贏唔到.無畏係法國..:jjjj: .
不過big brown未必草地唔得.反而無左全勝包袱可能仲好.
Big Brown 假假地叫做 Win 過...試下絕對無壞:jjjj:
Curlin 想跑 Arc..都係錢作怪...
而家隻馬跑番泥地..可算係好事:gggg:
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Running 時間: 5/8/2008 12:00 PM
原帖由 asiadragon 於 5/8/2008 11:58 AM 發表
Big Brown 假假地叫做 Win 過...試下絕對無壞:jjjj:
Curlin 想跑 Arc..都係錢作怪...
而家隻馬跑番泥地..可算係好事:gggg:
知道能力不及，重回現實去跑返泥地啦。
唔知岳伯仁聽到呢個消息後，仲派唔派Henry跑Classic？:fff:
[ 本帖最後由 Running 於 5/8/2008 12:04 PM 編輯 ]
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asiadragon 時間: 5/8/2008 12:02 PM
原帖由 Running 於 5/8/2008 12:00 PM 發表
知道能力不及，重回現實去跑返泥地啦。
唔知岳伯仁聽到呢個消息後，仲派唔派Henry派Classic？:fff:
岳伯仁好大機會照派...佢的傳統:yyy::yyy:
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Running 時間: 5/8/2008 12:06 PM
原帖由 asiadragon 於 5/8/2008 12:02 PM 發表
岳伯仁好大機會照派...佢的傳統:yyy::yyy:
得唔得都搏o左先:yyy:
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yuricylau 時間: 5/8/2008 01:09 PM
會唔會變左Big Brown跑Arc架???:fff: :fff:
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李澤楷 時間: 5/8/2008 04:48 PM
原帖由 Running 於 5/8/2008 11:19 AM 發表
或者一個唔該發現佢草地能力可能仲得:fff:
黎香港啦:fff:
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asiadragon 時間: 5/8/2008 06:26 PM
原帖由 Running 於 5/8/2008 12:06 PM 發表
得唔得都搏o左先:yyy:
Coral were not impressed by Big Brown's comeback win on Sunday andcut Henrythenavigator for the Breeders' Cup Classic as a result.
Aidan O'Brien's star miler is now 4-1 joint-favourite with Curlinfor the Santa Anita showpiece, while Big Brown has been eased a pointout to 5-1.
"With Big Brown far from impressive in the Haskell, and Curlin stilla possible for the Arc, Henrythenavigator deserves his prominentposition in the Classic betting," said Coral's David Stevens
Breeders' Cup Classic; Coral bet: 4-1 Curlin, Henrythenavigator, 5-1Big Brown, 8-1 Zenyatta, 12-1 Colonel John 14-1 Casino Drive, WellArmed, 16-1 Commentator, Go Between, Harlem Rocker, Macho Again, MastTrack, New Approach, Pyro.
Curlin 唔跑 Arc...Henry 這場硬仗唔易打:tttt:
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Kris 時間: 5/8/2008 07:00 PM
原帖由 Running 於 5/8/2008 12:06 PM 發表
得唔得都搏o左先:yyy:
但我覺得係Duke Of Marmalade跑Classic wor
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asiadragon 時間: 6/8/2008 02:16 PM
Curlin 下場決定左會跑活華錦標(泥1800米) ..日期在8月30日
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