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唔知係達少定田雞放呢....
但..達少真係會同你放!?
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原帖由 uidiot 於 30/4/2015 09:47 PM 發表

are you serious?...Luger will be happy if it can run second...

uidiot仔唔係講笑的,亦唔係個人認為,
有眼你睇上場步姐真係冇咩加速力,擺明跑多了,
頓頓都喺蘋果話步姐跑多了,我阿索本來係話贏三個半馬位當輸,
考慮到田雞未必打得成一添,靠自己貫注力到底亦夠做,
減返田雞果個馬位講贏二個半馬位當輸亦唔過份,
上場2000全程4疊都冇馬埋到身,換著步姐全程4疊要攞放大鏡才搵到佢囉!




其實真係好唔明啲擦鞋仔,
話毛主席偉大咁痛錫毛主席,
為何又唔夾返會費年費俾主席呢∼
成日攪小圈子打j有撚用咩!
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即係有特別任務...
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原帖由 <i>施華</i> 於 30/4/2015 10:03 PM 發表<br />

<br />
uidiot仔唔係講笑的,亦唔係個人認為,<br />
有眼你睇上場步姐真係冇咩它h了,<br />
頓頓都喺蘋果話步姐跑多了,我阿索本來係話贏三個半馬位當輸,<br />
考慮到田雞未必打得成一添,靠自己貫注力到底亦夠做,<br />
減返田雞果個 ...

<br />

Apart from being tired (which I doubt if it is the case anyway as it has not had any hard run this season), the "poor" performance of Able Friend last run can be explained by:

1. it was too close to the lead
2. J Moore seemed to have been easy on him on morning work before the last run
3. it was giving 5lb to most of its competitors
4. the tempo was too slow

1 and 3 above will not happen this time.  4 is dictated by J Moore.  His form also seems to be better than it was before its last run.  I doubt that it will repeat its "poor" performance.  Even assuming that it does, is it really that "poor".  It had still beaten a horse with a rating of 120 with ease by more than a length. Such "poor" performance is probably still enough to win this race.  On paper, only 花月春風 has any chance to come close to it.  Of course, if its last run was the beginning of a poor form, this race will be more interesting...

Let's see what 戰利品 has done so far...

beating 魔法豪情 by half a length at 1,600m..."with ease"? Definitely not as easy as Able Friend's last run...魔法豪情 is not a 1600m horse, its best distance is probably 1,300m to 1,500m...it is a horse that can't win...many people only remember that 魔法豪情 won the 港澳盃 (at 1,400m), a "Group 3", next up (with 119lb, and definitely not with ease), but it also lost to the other 4 years old at set weight the race before by more than 3 lengths...judging that race alone, 戰利品 is at most only at par with the other 4 years old at 1,600m, if not one or two lengths inferior ...of course, it was 戰利品's first run at 1,600m and it was also its first run after a spell...let's say it can run 2 to 3 lengths faster, it still not in the class of Able Friend or even 美麗之星...

then came the Derby...戰利品 has surely done a lot against it to win the Derby (first run at 2,000m; 2,000m is probably at its best distance; and it was kept two/three wide most way), the time was also good but was it really that good...

first, time is not everything, the track that day was reasonably fast (Able Friend won the 1,400m race at 1:21m, with ease; the tempo was slowed and he was blocked for a run for more than 150m in the straight)...

second, many of the other runners also didn't have 2,000m experiences and are not 2,000m horses, like 醒目名駒, 大印銀紙, etc.

third, the standard of the runners (at 2,000m) at Derby are also questionable. 喜蓮歡星's run last week showed that it is about 4 or 5 lengths behind our best 2,000m horses at this moment (the standard of the QEII last week was also lower; the two horse of the years were not at their best, the tempo was slow - just faster than the class 5 race a little bit earlier that day)...大印銀紙's won last week was good, but it also showed that it is not a 2,000m horse (at this moment) and is also a genuine class one horse, but definitely not a Group one or Group two horse (at this moment)...

all in all, not saying that 戰利品 can't win, as a winner is a winner, you can't underestimate a horse that won 7 of 10 times, just that it has not done enough to justify its short odd on Sunday and I will definitely try to bet against it...if it won, I would certainly be happy for the connection and all horse lovers in Hong Kong as we will have the no. 1 and 2 horses in the world...
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謝謝師兄的詳盡分析,大致認同,Luger唯一能夠給予壓力只能是牠自己再進步,當然,大家都希望能有一匹馬能給步步友一點壓力吧




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我就唔信隻1輸   

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戰利品今場真正受考驗

唔講步步友, 其餘4隻對手其實都係一d有豐富級際賽賽事經驗的賽駒

實力絕對有番咁上下, 比起上場打比大賽D對手更難應付

戰利品上次先係第一次越級上HKG1跑, 對手都只係同齡馬

呢次對番年長馬, 向更高難度挑戰

呢隻戰利品如果呢場贏到的話, 我諗真係馬王黎架la

就算戰利品呢場跑包尾其實都唔係咁驚奇

我好好奇d賠率會點, 會係步步友1.x倍獨贏, 定係因為有戰利品在陣分散d飛, 而有2倍樓上呢

大摩同蔡會唔會夾埋玩幻影呢
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好長,,有冇人翻做中文




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以前我一直都覺得呢隻戰利品唔係想像之中咁高的原因

就係呢隻馬從來贏既對手實力都唔太強

加埋韋達果種曲尺手就住就住咁騎既騎法, 總感覺隻馬無咩特別

但自從上場打比先睇清呢隻馬原來有既係一顆強橫鬥心, 一有馬同佢拍住鬥的話, 都幾難可以過到佢頭

今場落番1600跑, 如果潘頓早段留得好隻馬, 跟係第2位跑, 入直路爆一段, 步步友如果留係尾跑, 追唔追得切上黎都成問題

可能戰利品自己帶頭都唔出奇, 唔知大摩果幾隻會點, 呢場根本無一隻係放頭馬

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原帖由 yuricylau 於 30/4/2015 09:57 PM 發表
唔知係達少定田雞放呢....
但..達少真係會同你放!?

步步友放
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原帖由 yuricylau 於 30/4/2015 09:57 PM 發表
唔知係達少定田雞放呢....
但..達少真係會同你放!?

可能達少慢放, 直路死捱, 然後同戰利品串q

步步友走內欄塞死無位出
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原帖由 keywinner 於 1/5/2015 11:27 AM 發表
以前我一直都覺得呢隻戰利品唔係想像之中咁高的原因

就係呢隻馬從來贏既對手實力都唔太強

加埋韋達果種曲尺手就住就住咁騎既騎法, 總感覺隻馬無咩特別

但自從上場打比先睇清呢隻馬原來有既係一顆強橫鬥 ...

first, I think the tempo will be average to slow... fast tempo is in favour of 戰利品, not only that it comes back from 2,000m, 戰利品 is more suitable for a fast tempo anyway... it has yet to prove that it can run the last 400m below 22s whilst 步步友 has run below 22s in the last 400m in most, if not all, of its races this season...you can say that 戰利品 has been using 曲尺手 (but certainly not the races this season), but 步步友 ran 21.7 in the Steward Cup with Moreira not even sat on the horse at all...for me, that race is even more impressive than its win in the Hong Kong Mile (which itself is the most dominating performance by a Hong Kong horse in Hong Kong International races).

Hence, I can't see 戰利品 winning if it is not more than 3 lengths ahead of 步步友 when they turn home (assuming that both have a clear run)...
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步步友跑得番本身最高水準當然戰利品唔會夠佢跑,但我肯定戰利品係勁過美麗之星,雖然戰利品嬴魔法豪情果場嬴唔夠1個身位,但本身仲有幾多係手係未知之數,果場直路上魔法豪情每次一迫近戰利品,戰利品又會再彈開你,好似有用唔完既加速力咁,所以今場應該可以迫到步步友出多D力,可以清楚睇到究竟步步友用力騎落去仲有幾多係手




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我就唔信隻1輸   

遠征輸唔奇,係香港跑一哩冇可能輸

+1
都係果句,除非臨場有意外
否則想輸都好難




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我估應該都係包生果隻帶頭多
花月春風上場其實唔差 今場可能真係拎隻風花雪月做佢cover都唔奇
韋達上次騎美麗之星都係放頭姐 風花雪月又係前領馬 應該係佢搶放架喇

帶頭係邊隻就唔難諗 最難諗反而係驌龍會點跑





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未必一定需要有意外既

全場係得一隻戰利品係未知數

戰利品如果真係宇宙級馬王的話, 呢場贏到步步友十分正常

不過現在無人知隻馬係咪真係咁勁, 可能連神仙和十三少都未知隻馬仲有冇得再上

韋達上次打比放手唔騎戰利品, 事後睇番個結果其實皆大歡喜

達少就俾面潘呢個大馬主, keep住良好關係

另一面廂就彈隻戰利品俾潘頓贏打比, 就算二人有幾厭惡大家, 唔多唔少都因為呢隻戰利品之勝, 關係唔會繼續差落去

馬主可能因為達少棄騎而不高興, 但結果打比都係戰利品贏, 咁邊個騎又有乜所謂呢
起碼唔會嬲達少
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不過我覺得達少同戰利品夾D,可能因為戰利品既曲尺手深入民心 ,突然換左個車輪鞭硬係覺得格格不入




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