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作者: p238hornet 時間: 22/10/2014 07:25 PM 標題: 鄭雨滇停賽18天

大家點睇

作者: poiuy 時間: 22/10/2014 07:28 PM

唔罰都得

作者: kewell 時間: 22/10/2014 07:29 PM

又俾人拎黎開刀

作者: 李澤楷 時間: 22/10/2014 07:30 PM

唉

作者: CJ. 時間: 22/10/2014 07:37 PM

WHY?

作者: 西人堅 時間: 22/10/2014 07:37 PM

等馬會出判詞

作者: 自由雨滇行 時間: 22/10/2014 07:38 PM

無得上訴?

作者: 小武士 時間: 22/10/2014 07:53 PM

痴線罰咁多

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 07:54 PM

搵翻段片出黎
鄭雨滇又的確騎得非常肉酸...根本一D決心都冇,隻馬明明仲有好多

不過停18日就...

作者: p238hornet 時間: 22/10/2014 07:55 PM

得睇完條片,都估到一定過十天.我估12-16天,點知18日

作者: 駿先鋒 時間: 22/10/2014 07:56 PM

罰得重應該同有案底有關吧

之前有城中話題

作者: CJ. 時間: 22/10/2014 07:57 PM

邊場馬?

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 07:58 PM 標題: 回復 #12 CJ. 的帖子

軍駒

http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/in ... ocal/20141012/ST/06

作者: nathanxhim 時間: 22/10/2014 08:01 PM

衰到又係鄭雨滇+葉楚航
好難走甩

作者: iceson 時間: 22/10/2014 08:01 PM

番睇場賽事, 隻軍駒入直路後, 最多可以話佢入面有條路唔上走出去, 但果條路只有2,3個馬身位, 而且去到2百米左右前面d馬已經封晒位, 就算當時揀入面, 好大機會都冇位上, 咁樣罰18日完全係好離譜

作者: CJ. 時間: 22/10/2014 08:02 PM 標題: 回復 #13 雄心威龍的帖子

佢係騎得hea 左D,但洗唔洗罰咁多

作者: 飛神 時間: 22/10/2014 08:03 PM

即係叫佢咪阻9住晒

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 08:10 PM

前科：

http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/in ... ocal/20120516/ST/07

同樣係隻馬有...

不過個人就幾乎冇郁過手

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 08:12 PM

http://racingworld.no-ip.org/vie ... %B0%A4%A4%B8%DC%C3D

作者: Kurofune 時間: 22/10/2014 08:14 PM 標題: 回復 #9 雄心威龍的帖子

Cannot Agree
決心這些應該由誰訂定?

去到最後150米左右先望空點追番幾個馬位差距

P.S.相信係因為城中話題單Case問題而罰咁多

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 08:16 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 Kurofune 於 22/10/2014 08:14 PM 發表
Cannot Agree
決心這些應該由誰訂定?

去到最後150米左右先望空點追番幾個馬位差距

P.S.相信係因為城中話題單Case問題而罰咁多

之前個post判詞：

3. 由接近三百米處直至終點，他完全未有以足夠的決心及力度催策「城中話題」。

比較翻兩段片，鞍上人在取位同催策上都幾似...

作者: iceson 時間: 22/10/2014 08:24 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 Kurofune 於 22/10/2014 08:14 PM 發表 
Cannot Agree 
決心這些應該由誰訂定? 
 
去到最後150米左右先望空點追番幾個馬位差距 
 
P.S.相信係因為城中話題單Case問題而罰咁多

一望空已經推騎打鞕, 果度根本冇抽秤理由,

入直路初只係搵位有少少尤疑, 果度都未嚴重到要罰

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 08:28 PM 標題: 回復 #22 iceson 的帖子

其實決心同力度呢D野非常主觀...每個人可能都會有唔同的意見

都係等馬會出書面通告.睇下可唔可以服眾

作者: Kurofune 時間: 22/10/2014 08:33 PM 標題: 回復 #21 雄心威龍的帖子

5係個回事

首先,一來城中話題係轉入直路前係走2疊係佢外邊絕對有空位可以望空衝刺但佢選擇走入面而入面係有5少馬係佢前面阻到佢

其次,接近250M左右佢再度有機會選擇在風雲系外邊衝刺而佢直至終點也完全沒意識要望空衝刺沿途跟住隻馬後面衝刺

作者: p238hornet 時間: 22/10/2014 08:48 PM

曾經講過,一個本地騎師要連續在港出賽十個馬季係一件唔易的事.現役只有賴維銘、鄭雨滇、湯智傑及黎海榮係騎超過十年.依家咁睇,鄭雨滇下季個騎師牌都幾危,因為已經第三次拉馬俾人捉到

作者: 李澤楷 時間: 22/10/2014 08:49 PM 標題: 回復 #25 p238hornet 的帖子

係都湯智傑先過佢

作者: Kurofune 時間: 22/10/2014 08:50 PM 標題: 回復 #25 p238hornet 的帖子

好似上年都有提醒蘇狄雄一次團隊精神16日
跟住又係咁停賽

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 08:50 PM 標題: 回復 #24 Kurofune 的帖子

我好仔細重新睇多兩次

第一次睇段片就感覺鄭雨滇並未出全力，取位打鞭都好隨意...

頭先睇，鄭雨滇原意應該係留在內欄等位，但遲遲望唔到空，當時外側應該有位俾佢上，佢到最後200米左右才有意識將馬拉出去衝刺，而且望空後騎得比較隨意（可以參考佢同日騎軍功果場，修正好後衝刺，冇多餘動作），打兩鞭-推兩下，再打兩鞭，之後推騎到終點，當時軍駒個韁口是穩定的，不需要修正，但鄭雨滇一套動作俾我感覺係未盡全力

有一點需要提到，唔知今次的判罰是否同佢騎軍功果場有關，馬會會唔會拎兩場作對比?

個人觀點...有錯請指出

[ 本帖最後由雄心威龍於 22/10/2014 08:52 PM 編輯 ]

作者: p238hornet 時間: 22/10/2014 08:54 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 李澤楷 於 22/10/2014 08:49 PM 發表
係都湯智傑先過佢

我估都係依兩年玩完

作者: p238hornet 時間: 22/10/2014 08:55 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 Kurofune 於 22/10/2014 08:50 PM 發表
好似上年都有提醒蘇狄雄一次團隊精神16日
跟住又係咁停賽

依個我估騎唔到十年,拉到連小學生都睇得出

作者: 駿先鋒 時間: 22/10/2014 09:49 PM

The Stewards today concluded their inquiry into Y T Cheng’s riding of JUN JU in the Silvermine Bay Handicap which was run at Sha Tin Racecourse on Sunday, 12 October 2014.  Further evidence was today taken from Y T Cheng, the rider of JUN JU, as well as from Mr C H Yip, the trainer of that horse.  A written authority from Ms Chiu Yi, the owner of JUN JU, for Mr Jorge de Almeida to represent her interests at today’s hearing was acceded to by the Racing Stewards’ Panel.

Y T Cheng was found guilty of a breach of Hong Kong Rule of Racing 99 (2) and (5) in that as the rider of JUN JU in the stated race he did not take all reasonable and permissible measures throughout the race to win or to obtain the best possible placing in the field.

The charge was particularized as follows:-
1. That from after the 900 Metres he failed to maintain his position relative to CANNY FRANCO when it was both permissible and reasonable for him to do so.  The consequence of his riding of JUN JU at this stage of the race being that AMAZING ALWAYS was able to shift in and obtain a position behind CANNY FRANCO and in front of JUN JU passing the 700 Metres resulted in JUN JU racing further back in the field than was necessary.

2. That from prior to the 500 Metres until the entrance to the Home Straight approaching the 400 Metres, he permitted JUN JU to remain racing behind AMAZING ALWAYS and in doing so failed to avail JUN JU of the opportunity to improve its position into a clear run which was available between AMAZING ALWAYS and BEAUTY JOURNEY when at all reasonable times it was both reasonable and permissible for him to have done so.

3. That from inside the 400 Metres until approaching the 300 Metres he did fail to ride JUN JU with sufficient purpose and vigour so as to avail JUN JU of a clear run which was available directly ahead of JUN JU between ENDORSING and CANNY FRANCO when it was both reasonable and permissible for him to have done so.

4. That from the 350 Metres until passing the 300 Metres he did permit JUN JU to remain racing directly behind CANNY FRANCO when at all relevant times a clear run was available for JUN JU to improve into both inside and outside of CANNY FRANCO.

5. That in all the circumstances he did fail to ride JUN JU with sufficient purpose and vigour from passing the 300 Metres until near the 200 Metres when it was both permissible and reasonable for him to have done so.

The Stewards considered that the appropriate penalty was for Jockey Cheng’s licence to ride in races to be suspended for a period to expire on Monday, 5 January 2015 on which day he may resume race riding.  The commencement of this suspension was deferred until after the Sha Tin racemeeting scheduled to be conducted on Sunday, 26 October 2014.  During this period, there are 18 racemeetings scheduled to be conducted in Hong Kong.  In determining penalty, the Stewards took into consideration all the circumstances of this matter and that this was the third occasion on which Jockey Cheng had been found guilty of breaching Rule 99 (2) and (5).

Mr Yip was advised that his evidence during this inquiry would be noted.  He was further advised that this was the third occasion during recent racing seasons that he had been required to give evidence at an inquiry into the riding of a horse trained by him.  He was told that he must ensure, as best as he is able, that horses trained by him are ridden in such a manner so as to leave no room for query.

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 22/10/2014 09:52 PM

5. That in all the circumstances he did fail to ride JUN JU with sufficient purpose and vigour from passing the 300 Metres until near the 200 Metres when it was both permissible and reasonable for him to have done so.

同上次個措辭幾乎一模一樣...

作者: keywinner 時間: 23/10/2014 07:26 AM

QUOTE:

原帖由 p238hornet 於 22/10/2014 08:48 PM 發表
曾經講過,一個本地騎師要連續在港出賽十個馬季係一件唔易的事.現役只有賴維銘、鄭雨滇、湯智傑及黎海榮係騎超過十年.依家咁睇,鄭雨滇下季個騎師牌都幾危,因為已經第三次拉馬俾人捉到

根本就唔可以係叫做捉到

佢想砌你, 你根本唔係拉馬都屈到你係拉

馬會現在就好似話俾人聽, 你d華將騎功係差d, 所以拉馬都易d俾人捉到, 外國佬就唔同

最唔鍾意就係呢點, 好似歧視華將咁
外籍騎師騎功一定好過華將咩.......

作者: 大關刀 時間: 23/10/2014 09:13 AM

到國際賽日就會對鬼佬嚴厲執法架啦

(訪港鬼佬, 非公司騎師)

作者: p238hornet 時間: 23/10/2014 10:47 AM

QUOTE:

原帖由 keywinner 於 23/10/2014 07:26 AM 發表

根本就唔可以係叫做捉到

佢想砌你, 你根本唔係拉馬都屈到你係拉

馬會現在就好似話俾人聽, 你d華將騎功係差d, 所以拉馬都易d俾人捉到, 外國佬就唔同

最唔鍾意就係呢點, 好似歧視華將咁
外籍騎 ...

但佢同ben so的動作太明顯

有次我入場,ben so亂放隻馬,我唔記得叫咩名,全場嘩然

全世界人都睇到一定出事,結果停賽

當然好多人騎馬都好具爭議性

[ 本帖最後由 p238hornet 於 23/10/2014 11:40 AM 編輯 ]

作者: 李澤楷 時間: 23/10/2014 11:25 AM

軍號都仲用緊滇仔.
即係.......

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 23/10/2014 11:36 AM 標題: 回復 #36 李澤楷的帖子

練馬師柯打
可憐滇仔孭鑊

作者: 李澤楷 時間: 23/10/2014 11:37 AM 標題: 回復 #37 雄心威龍的帖子

一係馬會做.
一係葉楚航

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 23/10/2014 11:39 AM 標題: 回復 #38 李澤楷的帖子

我覺得都有...

作者: p238hornet 時間: 23/10/2014 11:41 AM

QUOTE:

原帖由 李澤楷 於 23/10/2014 11:25 AM 發表
軍號都仲用緊滇仔.
即係.......

依隻要騎盡

過勇停賽都唔緊要,反正同期執行

作者: 大關刀 時間: 23/10/2014 11:55 AM

軍駒想落五班搞出咁多事

作者: 雄心威龍 時間: 23/10/2014 11:58 AM

QUOTE:

原帖由 大關刀 於 23/10/2014 11:55 AM 發表
軍駒想落五班搞出咁多事

滇仔想做，但做得唔夠火候...
同城中話題、愛的呼喚一樣，鬼知隻馬仲衝得咁勁...

跑到一半心諗：「咦，同阿頭講嘅唔一樣...」

作者: 駿先鋒 時間: 23/10/2014 12:13 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 李澤楷 於 23/10/2014 11:37 發表
一係馬會做.
一係葉楚航

葉滇連續四期冇交收

作者: 李澤楷 時間: 23/10/2014 12:16 PM 標題: 回復 #43 駿先鋒的帖子

反而雨石有

.
可能大家都有個"雨"字

作者: JacKy1987 時間: 23/10/2014 02:29 PM

自從呢件事之後葉楚航晨課都冇比馬阿滇試

作者: 富源 時間: 23/10/2014 06:51 PM

傷完一大輪,手風今季開始順番又一野擊沉,慘

而家係咪連上訴都廢事?

作者: oowawawa 時間: 23/10/2014 07:24 PM 標題: 回復 #30 p238hornet 的帖子

你指邊一場？

作者: p238hornet 時間: 23/10/2014 11:10 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 oowawawa 於 23/10/2014 07:24 PM 發表
你指邊一場？

俾時間我查一查先,謝謝

作者: 富源 時間: 23/10/2014 11:17 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 p238hornet 於 23/10/2014 11:10 PM 發表 

 
俾時間我查一查先,謝謝<img src="images/smilies/biggrin.gif" smilieid="452" border="0" alt="" />

大有運?

作者: oowawawa 時間: 23/10/2014 11:18 PM 標題: 回復 #48 p238hornet 的帖子

OK

作者: p238hornet 時間: 23/10/2014 11:21 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 oowawawa 於 23/10/2014 11:18 PM 發表
OK

http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/Info/Meeting/Results/Chinese/Local/20110312/ST/5
奪寶

果陣我係馬場,佢放到全場嘩然

點可能冇事

作者: p238hornet 時間: 23/10/2014 11:21 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由富源於 23/10/2014 11:17 PM 發表
 
大有運?

奪寶

作者: 富源 時間: 23/10/2014 11:24 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 p238hornet 於 23/10/2014 11:21 PM 發表 
奪寶<img src="images/smilies/sweatdrop.gif" smilieid="466" border="0" alt="" />

太多前科

作者: p238hornet 時間: 23/10/2014 11:26 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由富源於 23/10/2014 11:24 PM 發表

太多前科

拉到全場嘩,我都係見過一次咁大把

我信下次停24日

作者: oowawawa 時間: 24/10/2014 03:16 PM 標題: 回復 #51 p238hornet 的帖子

全程都好似跑緊最後直路咁

作者: p238hornet 時間: 24/10/2014 06:29 PM

QUOTE:

原帖由 oowawawa 於 24/10/2014 03:16 PM 發表
全程都好似跑緊最後直路咁

所以點可能唔罰呀

作者: balljai923 時間: 27/10/2014 01:35 PM

至於剛被罰停賽18日嘅鄭雨滇，因為上周三尾場贏「太陽戰士」過終點時講粗口，被罰款一萬元。

作者: balljai923 時間: 27/10/2014 01:39 PM

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